Need some advice. I want Puff The Magic Dragon.

Shouldn't think so.

Dolores

<Too busy trying to finish this project up

Yeah, I got a quick answer for ya. Google yourself.

Cowritten by Peter Yarrow of Peter, Paul & Mary - was this Lenny the other author? It was a big hit for PPM. It's not likely to be in the public domain.

Yes, PPM shared writing credits

If the work was created and published before 1978, which this one was, and if a copyright renewal of the first 28 year term was properly requested, as this one no doubt was, then it will not be public domain till 95 years since the original copyright have passed.

Because of course Lenny Lipton's children should never have to work a day in their lives. I mean, come on - their dad wrote a silly metaphor for smoking weed. See how that makes sense?

The recordings may go PD after 70 years (in US) but the song will remain copyright for at least 50 (or is it 70?) years after the death of the last of the writers to die.

Phil

Unless given permission by the copyright holders, I think that's a definite keep your hands off Puff

But a lot of people bought that 'silly' song'.

A bit more respect for the songwriter wouldn't come amiss. And if the song gathers more royalties after the writers have 'moved on' ,who is more entitled to the money than the children of the writers?

CEO's?

And a lot of people bought stock in pets.com. And Minidisc players, and tickets to Joel Schumacher movies. A lot of people buy a lot of things...

Of course, songs don't 'gather' royalties on their own. Royalties are charged. And while I don't believe anyone is entitled to royalties to begin with, I *especially* don't believe anyone is entitled to royalties for songs they didn't even write.

'Puff the Magic Dragon', as much as I don't care for the song, became a significant part of American culture long ago - take, for example, the exchange about the song in 'Meet the Parents'. It's a cultural reference point, and says a lot about the era it was written in.

I get so utterly frustrated when Congress and corporations conspire to sell our culture back to us. No one should be prevented from listening to that song until they pay up. It's wrong.

I don't agree with you.

I am perfectly entitled to disagree with you.

You are not entitled to take someone else's property without permission.

Over and out on that...again.